by night, i might be a blogger, but by day i slog through the hours at a shia channel in the UK, where i produce two shows covering politics.
i had tweeted a while back about callers who would shout "youse all are kuffar" before hanging up, but recently something new has started happening.
one of my shows has the blessedly generic name 'behind the headlines' where i round up a week's worth of stories relating to islam and muslims and then three hosts discuss them while taking calls.
last week, we did a show discussing the comments of Jack Straw, a former Labour cabinet minister, that Pakistani men "are preying on white women." the hosts then asked the audience if the statement was a valid one. they also made mention of the fact that Straw's own brother had been put on the sexual offenders list.
now the response was beyond anything our show had seen. pakistani callers of both genders nearly melted the phone lines as they chimed in with their vitriolic responses. but they weren't only concerned with Straw's comments, they were mega pissed that the channel had even brought up the question. in fact, days after the show we were still receiving emails literally bursting at the seams with venom over how our show sought to repeatedly bring up anti-pakistan stories.
now this was something i have long held disdain for. back in pakistan journalists would forever get pillored for promoting a 'negative' image of the country. in a month where pakistan remained in the news for blasphemy rows ranging over issues such as water glasses, business cards and posters, culminating in a brutal murder which was roundly appreciated by all and sundry, it's really not my fucking fault if pakistan is 'looking' bad.
and as my forays into both news and non-news media have blatantly illustrated, everyone loves the controversial, shocking, 'negative' stories far more over any uplifting, positive ones. moreover, i am sick to death of this refrain because if these problems do exist, the worst thing possible would be to start pushing them under the rug.
take the Jack Straw story again. he made his comments a week or so after pakistani gangs who ran prostitution rings got busted. now the stories in all the papers were about how they were using white women. no one bothered mentioning that there were a lot of asian women involved as well. why?
because for people like Jack Straw, the question is one of an event reconfirming a bias brought about their own anxieties. the bias being that pakis are up to no good. the anxiety being that these good-for-nothing pakis are ruining our beloved Blighty.
its not like Straw is alone on this.
for starters, without resorting to anything more than anecdotal evidence and personal experience, there is a impulse, nay a raging desire, amongst pakistani men to fuck white women. its not that they are the most obvious cultural marker of beauty of our globalised society, although its that also, but because of something simpler.
men like to play out their politics on women's bodies.
for the colonised brown man, the pain of being politically subjugated seeks relief through the physical conquering of the coloniser's woman. for the downtrodden minority, doing someone from the majority is meant to alleviate all other miseries.
of course, in actuality this far too often leads to self-hate and eventual acting out etc.
but that never subverts the desire to play out your ideology via a vagina.
take the partition for example. for so long, i have tried to rationalise or attempt to understand why the announcement of a homeland being broken led to a mass explosion of unrestrained sexual violence. i mean we all know about looting, plundering and raping hanging out in the same crowd. but widespread lopping of breasts and collecting them in sacks? forced circumcisions by the dozens? rape at such magnitudes that the governments for both the new nations actually had to develop policies of how to deal with rape-concieved-children-of-the-wrong-faith?
the only answer that makes sense is that the helplessness felt at being uprooted and having your home torn apart was alleviated by forcibly imposing a grotesque level of control through rape.
and its not like this, as we so often like to delude ourselves, was a one-off.
even now, our allums (you know, the big-ass flags you carry in war) are adorned with women. when the woman is aasia, her feminity and humanity are torn off and she is presented simply as evil incarnate. when it comes to aafia, her feminity is ramped up through the selective lens of mehramness, and she ascends as the daughter of the nation. no one has any clue about who they were as people, or even as women, yet deranged fanatics continue to projects their beliefs amidst their breasts.
because when women can be objectified, as a hole to put your dick into, an image to spill your semen on, a symbol for your desire to crawl back up the uterus, a standard bearer for all your morality and anxieties, it allows you to cloak yourself from the actual responsibility of dealing with them.
what do i mean by "dealing with them?"
well, i mean realising they are human.
now, i know you know that. but let's take this conversation down to a basic level. let's take it down to sex.
because you can say whatever the fuck you feel like, and your brain can make as many logical and rational and intellectual arguments as it wants, but your body and its urges always act in what you truly feel. and so its one thing to say platitudes about women, quite another to make love to her in a way which is equitable and enjoyable.
its an idea i have thought about often, even making a short film about this.
holy fuck, emphasis on holy.
and if you think that this is just khatmal mythology typical of this kuffar sect, check out what the Prophet had to say on this matter.
The Prophet said, "Three people are cruel: . ..a person who has sex with his wife before foreplay.'' (Wasa'il, vol. 14, p. 40) Another hadith equates sex without foreplay to animal behavior: "When anyone of you has sex with his wife, then he should not go to them like birds; instead he should be slow and delaying." (Wasa'il, vol. 14, p. 82) The Prophet said, "No one among you should have sex with his wife like animals; rather there should be a messenger between them." When asked about the messenger, he said, "It means kissing and talking." (Tahzibu'l-Ihya, vol. 3, p. 110)
as i was saying, holy fuck.
because it got me thinking, do all these doyens of religion, and those champions of equality and rationality, ever allow these thoughts into their bedroom? do they ignore the imperatives of their raging hard ons to try and get their wimmin hot and spicy? do all those millions who massed for upholding the Prophet's sanctity and protecting the daughter of the nation, do they try and see if their tongues and their thumbs can locate clitorises (or is it clitori?) does maulana fazlur rehman consider that reverse cow-girl might not be as fun for him, but it could be more fun for his zoja? or do our chest-thumping, equality now bloggeratis pause their impending premature ejaculations in an attempt to at least try and ensure that the match doesn't end with the female orgasm stranded on a golden duck?
cause eventually, all this talk of politics and rights and ideals are smokescreens obfuscating your own agendas, insecurities and beliefs. stop the talking, let your actions (and i mean this in the most colloquial sense of the word) prove your worth.











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ReplyDeletetlw:
ReplyDeleteyou've touched upon an integral issue here. according to my wife and her experiences as a doctor, and the brilliant blog, nice-mangos.blogspot.com it appears that a lot of women are instructed by their mothers that enjoying sex is a sin in itself.
now that may not apply to your girlfriends perhaps, but even amongst us liberal types, experience shows that a lot of women are more comfortable with hulki=philki touching shouching and flirting, but completely clam up during actual physical activity due to preconcieved notions.
I don't know what to think of this post. Those hadith have to be fake, right?
ReplyDeleteahsan:
ReplyDeletenope not fake at all. checked from several sources, did an entire show on this. also, even salafi schools contend that oral sex is halaal. islam just got a whole lot sexier.
more importantly, its a glaring example of how culture subsumes religion. i mean how many khutbas will we ever hear on cunninglingus?
You should've emailed this post to Veena Malik before her show on Express. Might've had more ammo against that maulvi.
ReplyDeleteMy hypothesis that Ahmed Naqvi shall bring the circular debate back to sex stands proven :p although in this case it was a non-circular justified argument.
ReplyDeleteSome of the best writing I have seen in a while.
ReplyDeleteAs for your response to TLW's comment, it's been my personal experience too that women (Indian in this case) find it easy to kiss and fool around but get very clammed up when it comes to actual sex.
Ahsan and Ahmer : You can find tons o' online fatwas arguing about foreplay as a necessity. (don't judge me bro, this all thanks to a devoted islami friend whose porn it seems was online fatwas and debates on this stuff)
ReplyDeleteshahid:
ReplyDeletethis ahmed naqvi is also the bane of my existence. lol.
that said, i did consider linking to our debate on my obsession with sexual causes for these arguments - haha
Ankur:
very true. i have also known of men who find it a lot easier to sleep with a woman they have to pay, but lose all sexual prowess with someone they're married to
Dude, my pre-conceived notions kicked in when I walked away from the keyboard after taping my opinions in. If you hadn't responded I'ld let my Id-talk disappear into the ether, but for anyone who wants to know, what I said was, I'm all for the lady getting off, but for God's sake, all those buttons are hard to find, and I'ld be grateful if the lady helped with the navigating the geography. And in those few cases where they are unfamiliar with their own terrain, or don't want to help, then my relationship doesn't last any longer than a few morning afters.
ReplyDeleteAhmer, this post has now made me angry at you. Dude, THERE'S BEEN A BLOG ON PAKISTANI SEXUALITY FOR 7 MONTHS AND YOU NEVER TWEETED IT?
FUCK MY BLOOD-STAINED PRATTLING ON THE DURAND LINE, WE NEED TO WAGE THE LONG WAR ON GETTING PAKISTANIS HAPPY & LAID.
Everyman flood Nice Mangoes now!
And now for the Pakistani Zananiat.
Ladies (And girls, cause you gotta learn the same age we boys do) its OK to masturbate and have a good time with yourself. Heck if you're a Pakistani female and are reading this, its likely your family is watching you like an ISI surveillance team, so you have lots of alone time, to *ahem* learn about yourself. So:
Step 1) Obtain privacy
Step 2) Take two fingers
Step 3) Insert Between Legs
Step 4) Go to Town
Step 5) Stay In Town Until...
Step 6) A Happy Bomb Goes Off In Your Mind
And remember, practice makes perfect. Your (eventual) significant other will thank you for it.
TLW:
ReplyDeletevery sorry about that - but i had raved a lot about nice mangos when i found it a year ago or so. absolutely smashing blog. also i think you explained the situation yourself. if a woman herself is comfortable with her sexuality, she's a lot more likely to be willing to help out with the buttons. that said, be careful what you wish for. many a alpha male has felt so emasculated by the full glory of female sexuality that they just have to act out.
Oh My God - My Id - And all those lousy Desi/O/A Level hookups - just spilled on to the keyboard.
ReplyDeleteGirls of South Asian descent, before you learn to Matriculate, at least learn to get your self off.
There's at least one area where the boys seem to be ahead of you.
many a alpha male has felt so emasculated by the full glory of female sexuality that they just have to act out
ReplyDeleteI don't know, girls with confidence are better.
Ima loving da sesking talks. whatta dirty our religion is. *said in my best breathy, Meera voice*
ReplyDeleteby the by, a lot of the Quran has direct references to sex, and when not direct then the context (commentary) will tell you the circumstances surrounding the revelation of the Ayat. God is lurving the sexings.
KarachiKhatmal, your blog is so well rounded it makes a buxom lady feel the need to overcompensate. I have been thinking about writing a blog, to help women, especially brides to be to know what to expect, what to do, how to prepare mentally, emotionally and physically. Not just for the man, but primarily for herself - So it can lead to a happy married life for the both of them - sexually. So this blog will neatly dovetail with mine own.
Until then, here's a little summin summin for all the ladies out there - No longer are men, regarded as objects of beauty to be ogled at, harassed, pinched and made kissy noises at. Fear not young lads, you have not been forgotten as objects of sex.
Here's my blog to help soothe those jagged insecurities: http://bit.ly/gH0cz7
--Shameless self-promotion OUT ya piggas--
Brilliant stuff. The problem with you is that you post too rarely.
ReplyDeleteJitni jinsi khushi mujhe yeh parh ke hui hai na, aur kabhi nahi hui. Bhalla kiun? Kiunke, bil-aakhir, kisi ne keh diya ke Islam mai bhi mubashrat pe khulli baat hui hai. Iss ke saath apne dost, Mehreen Kasana, ko ijazat dijiye. Allah hafiz.
ReplyDeleteP.S. Awesome post.
Dude ... allow me to tell you that You are a dick !! Plain and simple. All you filthy mind gets to is violence , sex and all that shit !
ReplyDeleteI didnt even read the whole thing, its soo stupid. Did you for a second , stop to think WHY the pakistanis are acting the way they are ? Did you even DO a single thing to stop whats going on ? hell no .
Infact you just sit there , talking rubbish and thinking you know all about the country, news flash , YOU DONT !.
I get it, that what you are trying to say is that everyone is blaming pakistan because of bias , that pakistanis react to these accusations but also, they should mind what they are doing. I get that .
But , You Sir , have no modesty in sharing your opinions. Do you think it would right if a mother of three children starts reading this article,and closes it because of embarrassment of the content you used ? Is this an article that a father could give to his daughter and tell her to learn from it ?
Thankyou , but you are a shitt of a cause.
And I dont normally use this language, But you deserve it here .
Fabulous blog! Almost as good as a good Muslim woman having multiple orgasms, with her good Muslim husband!
ReplyDeleteThere is a profoundly spiritual dimension to sexuality (within mariage of course) as practised by the Ma'sumîn (as). Sex between husband and wife is seen as iba'dah which is quite a strong statement. The emphasis of the Ma'sumîn (as) on foreplay and satisfying one's wife first shows a deep understanding not only of chivalrous selfless ethics or futuwwah but also an almost tantric understanding of energies. Sohravardi assimilates love (including physical love) to light and sees sexuality as merging of lights. Given our doctrines on the fact that the Shi'ah souls, spirit and heart are made of the heavenly clay of Illiyun while the Shi'ah bodies are made of a mixture of the heavenly Illiyun and hellish clay of Sijjin it seems like sexuality, if perfomed according to the instructions of the Ma'sumîn (as) is part of a spiritual alchemical process of cleaning away the Sijjin from our beings and becoming pure light.Unfortunately Shi'ism, from being a path of knights and lovers bound by an oath of love to the Face of God (the 14 Ma'sumîn) has been overshadowed by a parody where jurists and their Sunni influenced fiqh are supposed to be followed like sheep follow a sheperd or Jews follow their rabbis...
ReplyDeleteYou're fucking brilliant.
ReplyDeleteSincerely,
A Pakistani female
Bohat aala!! I'm glad the Jack Straw comment and show brought out this post from you. On a sidenote, I also noticed that if you replace Jack Straw with Terrorism in your blog labels, those words define what life for most of us in Pakistan revolves around; Islam, (Terrorism), Men, Pakistan, Prophet, Racist, Sex, Women
ReplyDeleteSomeone had to say it. And nicely said too Ahmer!
ReplyDeleteI like it, I really like it!
ReplyDeleteWell written, well researched, at least it sounds like it was so score and quite entertaining.
I would have liked the capitol letters to have been in all the right places but I'm just a grammer nazi so.
I'm going to go read some more of your stuff, well done brother!
Khatmal... I skipped all the content and started reading the rest of this post after watching that short film on Pakistani sex scene(btw it was awesome, OMG it reminded me all the pakeezah, naik, muqaddas, saleeq she-yaar :P biwian...it disgusted me...thanka god im not married yet and have no intentions of going thru all that shit)...I think you have hit it hard but it does need more from you on this single topic. I love the way Islam is talking about sex...hush hush word...even though im a 28 year old bitch still I am not allowed to talk abt this openly in my family except my sisters, and one of my aunts think I go to far and should be stopped talking abt this "stuff". I love you man!!! keep writing...and I also watched sasti masti... just to let you know...keep it up i mean Good Luck
ReplyDeleteExcellent. Couldn't have said it better myself.
ReplyDeleteAnother Pakistani female
bhaichod:
ReplyDeleteah the greatest new name in pakistani blogdom, welcome to my site! i actually tweeted that post of yours - had meant to do a post on that gay pakistani version of orkut, but i think you hit that one for six!
Kream:
thanks - as for the rarity of the posts, as i have written repeatedly i "copy-paste" my wife's ideas, so essentially its her fault for not churning out more ideas more often. jokes apart, my wife and i usually go back and forth over an idea for weeks on end before i put pen to proverbial paper.
mehreen kasana:
arrey bibi, itni salees urdu main itni tareef? is nacheez ke liye to yeh "uff too much hai" :)
qahar alood:
here's hoping :)
bahador:
many thanks sir! it was your insight that got me into researching this area in the first place!
Anons, Hyder, MadCow, Abdul:
thanks a lot. and do spread sasti masti far and wide when you get the chance :)
Also, i recieved this comment in my email which seems to have mysteriously disappeared from this post. i am re-printing it here, with a request to notice the fact that our friend refused to even read what was written before launching him/herself into a diatribe of the exact head-in-the-sand nature that this post was trying to dispel.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said:
"Dude ... allow me to tell you that You are a dick !! Plain and simple. All you filthy mind gets to is violence , sex and all that shit !
I didnt even read the whole thing, its soo stupid. Did you for a second , stop to think WHY the pakistanis are acting the way they are ? Did you even DO a single thing to stop whats going on ? hell no .
Infact you just sit there , talking rubbish and thinking you know all about the country, news flash , YOU DONT !.
I get it, that what you are trying to say is that everyone is blaming pakistan because of bias , that pakistanis react to these accusations but also, they should mind what they are doing. I get that .
But , You Sir , have no modesty in sharing your opinions. Do you think it would right if a mother of three children starts reading this article,and closes it because of embarrassment of the content you used ? Is this an article that a father could give to his daughter and tell her to learn from it ?
Thankyou , but you are a shitt of a cause.
And I dont normally use this language, But you deserve it here . "
i find it ironic that he feels mothers will feel embarassed and fathers can't teach their daughters with the lessons herein, because i suppose in that way it would continue both the repressive patriarchy, as well as the skewered version of islam that perpetuates the problems i wrote about. and my dear friend, i have wasted a lot of time, much to the chagrin of fellow bloggers, in trying to understand why exactly pakistanis are like this. but somehow i doubt you will bother reading any of that.
Khatmal...tell this dude if whole nation can listen to the shitty SHEILA KEE JAWANI, they should be open enough and "brave" enough to read the stuff in this post. Yeah jahan sheila kee jawani aayegi bhai wahan saarey naachein gey jahan kisi ne andar kee baat cheir dee wahan maaein behnein yaad aa jati hein. Tell this dude...to accept some realities and how women are being exploited... and how should men behave especially in our desi cultures. I wish we treat each other as humans first instead of thinking about gender segregation.
ReplyDeleteactually this article is for our desi men instead of 3 bachon kee maa! I wish her husband read this article...
Keep writing Khatmal!!! BEST
I've booked you on the next episode of Frontline with Kamran Shahid. You're fucked.
ReplyDeleteWe consider Islam too holy to talk about such stuff. Islam is not just a religion, it's a way of life as our Prophet (SAWW) has indicated.
ReplyDeleteKK, considering the downward spirals we've all seen, I think the nature of your blogging has followed the lyrics of this Jefferson Airplane's song:
ReplyDelete♫When the Truth is Found,♫
♫To Be Lies,♫
♫And All The Hope Within You Dies,♫
♫Don't You Want Somebody To Love♫?
Dude, you're A! W! E! S! O! M! E! :-D And yes, a sexually-liberated woman does make many an alpha male act out. Weird, that reaction. One would have thought that helping 'em out with them buttons would actually be, y'know, helpful. But the desi male mind (in general, with notable exceptions) works in warped ways.
ReplyDeletePS: "A Happy Bomb Goes Off In Your Mind" made me choke on my chai. Uber-LULZ! :-D
Raza:
ReplyDeletekamran shahid is my homie
Bolshevik:
i think the problem is not about knowing which buttons to press, but rather the very idea of having a woman take charge. thanks for the cheerleading shoutout :)
Bloody Awesome. Jiyo Pyaare, Jiyo
ReplyDeleteI really dont understand what are you trying to portrait..
ReplyDeleteWeb Designing
boy am i glad, i checked up this. excellent as usual, ahmer.
ReplyDeleteits been really hard (there is a "thats what she said joke here") to convince females around me the joys of sexual exploration. but now my task has obviously - i can just nonchalantly link mangoes and your post.
i do have a certain instinctual disagreement with the brownies/gori chicks part and the reason that you ascribe to this particular interaction (brownie and a gori). While I do agree with politics being played on a woman's body as well as the aafia/aasia argument, i am not sure the functioning brown man in a non-violent, random environment (obviously environment that was the partition changed many things) would think so much about political control when having his sex on with a gori.
if we should only limit this debate to paid sex workers - yes a white prostitute in pakistan would cost but that is really simple supply and demand, aint it? (in the same way, asians sell for more in the US) maybe the exotic value or something. but surely not political?
i know its a trifling issue and while i agree the brown man's control over his own women must be absolute in order for him to feel like an alpha male, i have a slight feeling that the brown man's taste for a gori is even more simple than just politics. in fact i would argue, politics go out the window because the brown man understands that he cannot control this gori (this free-spritedness of the gori televised to him through popular american culture/perception) except when paying which is probably why he pays in the first place.
in brief, the question would be, is the interaction between a brown man and a gori less/more political (the "get back at the raj finally" idea), less/more festishized (due to watching too many sex scenes perhaps), or simply a case attractiveness (whichever way a notion of beauty might have passed on to the brownie)?
(i think we may have to separate non-paying/paying demographics here too - so the question above would for example only be for paying-customers)
anyways, i really just wanted to say good job. but hey this post is what happens when you are supposed to be working.
ahh, sex. Everybody loves it in different ways.
ReplyDeleteHave you noticed how reserved the normal pakistani women are, in general? I mean it takes ages for them to start a normal conversation with you. It feels like they're scared I'm gonna jump on them or something. These aren't the upper middle class girls who study in prestiged schools and have morally sensible parents, its the lower to middle class ones.
I got kicked out of my school for 'sexual harassment' because I happen to take pictures of cartoon penises drawn on blackboard for a yearbook. 'Sexual Harassment' it isn't, though naughty of course it is.
I'm not sure if you would have the time but check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAEa41t7eFE
it's an interesting insight and a different perspective. And you don't have to fulle endorse their views either :p Its not highly relevant to the topic of female subjectivism, but the general reason leans on to it. As in frustration and the desire to bully out the weaker group.
A painful truth. Fortunately we will be less sexist.
vehla:
ReplyDeletethanks :)
ahad:
perhaps after last night at the emirates your world view might have changed for good. transcedental experience and what not.
that said, i think the only difference we have is one of labels. when i say politics, i am referring to a power hierarchy. so ideas of transmitted attractiveness is an example of a dominant cultural idea being accepted and fetishized by one who feels dominated. in a sense, i don't mean politics in the sense of countries and governments, but simply in the sense of power. which is why the dominance of a white woman through sex allows the feeling of exerting power over not just her, but all white people that the brown man feels have been holding him down.
taimur:
first question - who was drawing these cartoon penises, and were they expelled as well?
my personal experience is that when it comes to sex, it is difficult to have a conversation for men and women. for men, its very difficult to divorce ourselves from the prospect of the conversation turning into action, and thus there is an inherent bias all along. for women, there is the fear that even a discussion would sully them as being a slut. i think that if you ever get past the facades, pakistani women are not really reserved in matters sexual. of course, that's just me.
A few. nobody bothered to ask about them.
ReplyDeleteNope, discussing sex with a female acquaintance in public is asking for trouble. I'm talking about ultra conservatism. I got reprimanded for even approaching girls :/ for whatever reason. yay segregation.
Wow.. when I read this, I felt as if someone had given me a window to look through, a room where I could breath in..
ReplyDeleteBecause it is true, for women, having enjoyment out of any intimate activities is almost equal to sinning. After all, if a woman enjoys it, that means she must have had it before, and that means she is a slut to have a 'taste' for it.
Interestingly enough, the person who can be the most helpful in demolishing this fear of enjoying an intimately sexual encounter is the man himself. I am myself a pakistani woman, and for years, I ran from marrying because deep inside, I KNEW that I could NEVER give myself to a man just for the sake of his pleasure.
I'd rather die a virgin than do that.
Now, at 40 years of age, I did get married, and to this very interesting intellectual man, who, instead of .. expecting me to be shy, meek, and a gai (cow) expected me to be just as much involved with him in the act.
Its not an easy thing to happen, but I do remember that it was almost like a gentle coaxing, plus HUGE doses of constant reassuring. And when he refused to simply 'do it' for only his pleasure, I knew he was different.
Unless men themselves change, women might not be able to do much. After all, when living in a joint family system where the only 'alone' time one gets is when everyone has gone to bed after 12:00 PM, how can you expect much intimacy or attachment to development?
For all he cares, the man has a sex doll to fuck at night.. to sort of fulfill his manly cravings. For them, their partners can be nothing more than a hole, or a cow.. or a blow up doll, heck anything as long as it has a tight hole
Anon 1830:
ReplyDelete"Wow.. when I read this, I felt as if someone had given me a window to look through, a room where I could breath in.."
that must be the best thing i've ever had said about this blog.
it makes me very happy to read of your experience, because there is a happily ever after since your bravery and love won its reward, but also because your happily ever after only exists because you and your husband decided to choose it repeatedly - something which is an active, ever developing act rather than a definitive moment.
Great post! Had it not been for TLW, one of your commenters telling me you have a blog, i'd have never known! Im glad i found it. I enjoy well written things.. esp when they're to do with Sex and Pakistan. :P
ReplyDeleteAlso, thanks for sending ppl my way, you rawk.