Friday, September 3, 2010

Copy Pasting Copy Paste


"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research."

I read this quote today on a friend's facebook status. when i started to write this blog, i googled the phrase, and found this:

The quote "If you copy from one author, it's plagiarism. If you copy from two, it's research." has been attributed to playwright, raconteur  and entrepreneur Wilson Mizner. The exact wording to which you allude has been widely attributed to comedian Steven Wright. Did he plagiarize Mizner?

it was an interesting example of fate stepping forward and stealing my punch line.


you see, when i saw the quote, it managed to provide a pithy summary of why i had decided to name my blog "copy paste material." the decision had come a year of being a journalist, and three years before that of being a student at LUMS.



what i had come to see was that in both cases, one needed to essentially plagiarise in order to be credible.

as a student, i often felt that i had read and seen enough to hold certain views. but in order to be taken seriously, i had to present it in light of what others had said or done.

as a journalist, i was starting out as a copywriter on the international desk. so yeah, i covered three wars - i'm a regular robert fisk. anyhows, being on the international desk meant sitting around, reading the wires, and - wait for it - copy pasting them into your story.

in both cases, the mark of quality was demonstrated by, amongst other things, a variety and depth of sources. in fact, an out right copy-paste was inacceptable. but reframing et al the stuff constituted quality.

hence the title - copy paste material.



why do i bring up this now?

i read a blog recently, which ended thus:

"undeniably, and unfortunately, there is a little bit of Zardari in all of us."

which reminded me of this:

"Asif Ali Zardari did what every Pakistani does – he looked at how the game was being played, sought out its soft spots, and then cut it to pieces. Its why he’s here. He does what all of us do. It maybe at a different scale, but it’s the same scene.

You have to admit - we all have a little Zardari within us."

yesterday, i came across this:

Every time I bribed a policeman, ignored the traffic signals, sent gifts to judges, made phone-calls to those in power to seek favors, I kept this in mind. Every time I willfully weakened the justice system for my benefit, I knew what I was doing. I knew exactly what kind of crop I was sowing. Some other people did too, but I don’t want to name any names.

a sort of like this, i wondered:

"Every day, as we break red lights and jostle with vehicular madness, as we consume tainted water and questionable food, as we bribe and barter, we live in existence where the possibility of the consequences of our actions can not hope to be considered, because perhaps we know of no other way."

now if you are getting my flow, i suppose there are two ways i can go with this. i can get all egoistical, and claim that people are copy-pasting my ideas. or i can face up to what i believe myself - that these are signs of people waking up to the massive contradictions that lie within us.

moreover, i could make sense of the 'copy-pasting' being employed in academia and journalism - because in a society overflowing with ideas, their repetitions and their regurgitations, the only way of making sense, the only skill is one of bringing together references that your audience can relate to in order to create a narrative, or an opinion that makes sense.



a part of me wanted to believe that i was being plagiarized, but it would be egoistical folly. surely i was not the first person to realise that pakistanis can often be in denial about themselves, that change lies within us all. moreover, a lot of my own blogs have been basically copy-pastes of my wife's ideas and thoughts. so it would be hypocritical.

but what provides irrefutable evidence of the fact that all these are original works is when you step back and read all of them in their context. the second link for example, works the same motifs i used to examine afridi into a haunting account of the sialkot lynching. i doubt if he/she had ever even come across what i had written. the reason both ideas work is that they allow their readers to make sense of their society using examples of their own experiences - the bribing, the bartering, the wheeling and dealing.

to get a much better example than all of this, take a look at this magnificent video. umar sharif, in about a few minutes, weaves together references from silent-era Hollywood to post-Cold War geopolitics, from one style of qawwali to the next, from one generation of sub-continental romancing styles to an eerily prescient version of another (i am referring to the line about giving out phone numbers.)

(thanks to tazeen for the link)

and it gets even more interesting. there is for example an indian version of this song currently out:



according to twitter user @Mehmal, both songs are versions of an older song, known as "Launda Badnam Hua, Nasiban Tere Liye." an indian website meanwhile says that the song was a "famous Bhojpuri song "Launda badnam hua naseeban tere liye", which was sung by Rani Bala"

Soon enough you come to realise that there might not be anything original in the world. so what?


each idea flows from somewhere, and flows on to somewhere else. attributing your sources is always great, but you can't very well put footonotes in a song or a movie.

the whole point is to make what ever you do your own. you're going to be copy-pasting whether you like it or not, whether you realise it or not. but you do have the choice of making it in your own style, in your own image.

23 comments:

  1. "Good artists borrow, great artists steal!" - Picasso

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  2. When you quoted the first paragraph from somebody's blog, I was expecting the last paragraph from my post too. Interestingly, a comment on my post also says

    "Incidentally By the end of your little fit, you're basically just riffing on what Ahmer Naqvi wrote, much more eloquently by the way, on his dawn blog."

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  3. A very interesting and provocative post. I'd like to get into this issue in great detail but I unfortunately don't have the time right now. Let's hope I get a window somewhere.

    If however YOU have the time, you should read this wonderful piece by Malcolm Gladwell, indeed probably link it in the post somewhere too. It's worth it:

    http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/11/22/041122fa_fact?currentPage=all

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  4. Vagabond:

    well now you have a reply for that commenter :)

    Ahsan:

    i've read the article - its astounding, and also gets around the nitty-gritty of what so many lazily dismiss as 'cheating' or 'copy-pasting'. do share your thoughts here when you get the time

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  5. This post is a beautiful way you've dealt with a now new-found fame. Congratulations on the Dawn Blog post. If people from all over the Dawn reading world click through to your blog, at least they'll get some indigenously synthesized into the Pakistani psyche.

    Warts and all, at least further control over the international conversation on Pakistani identity comes back to Pakistanis, rather than being left in the hands of dilletantes like Robert Fisk.

    My little copy paste confessional is on those two comments I left about what effected Pakistani culture through the late seventies through the eighties and nineties. The part about Abdus Salam, Faiz and other greats being from a more cosmopolitan pre-partition culture is an argument made rather viciously by an Indian to try and psycho-analyse why Pakistani intellectual culture had become barren. And the argument about acquiesence in the Bangladesh atrocities having an effect on the psyche of the Islamising generations is an argument made circuitously by Kamila Shamsie in her novel Kartography, by Tariq Ali to explain why he avoided Pakistanis for a generation, by multiple authors of Kamila Shamsie's generation, and by NFP to try and explain why the state apparatus turned to Islamism so easily.

    You and Ahsan's discussion of it on twitter added a new and sinister depth to it when I though some more about it. Whenever talk of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto would come up, Ahsan would instantaneously mention that he could never forget that ZAB was responsible for the "Hum Idhar, Tum Udhar"/"Anybody Going to Dhaka Will Have Their Legs Broken" statement. The army tries always to focus on Mujib and the Awami League in their more lucid rationalisation of whom to blame. However, if we take it as a given that Sindh and Punjab had unanimously selected ZAB as their leader, and in typical South Asian style abdicated all power to the leader once he was elected, what this means is that if nobody openly protested the genocide in East Pakistan, and had simply voted PPP in 1970, the blood was spread doubly on their hands, and into their very psyche and soul.

    Think about it, if you had voted PPP, or had stayed silent throughout the debacle, unless you explicitly protested, a Pakistani in 1970, through their PPP representative had blood on their hands. The entire PPP deferred to Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. And so by not obstructing Bhutto, the PPP and it's supporters had the blood of Bangladesh on their hands. Very depressing place to go.

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  6. A wonderful read, an absolute truth. I hope that in time we would see more people like you who discover every second the role we actively play in the sad turn of events. I would strongly recommend "War & Peace" (Leo Tolstoy) to you. For a lack of better term, it was the source of my epiphany 10 years from now. Made me realize, in my tender teens, that I was individually responsible for the wrong in the whole world. Unfortunately, that also resulted in development of a narcissistic delusion that I was an original. And as an original, i never thought that my opinions or statements required credibility through validation of a "famous name". Now you need to understand who the "famous names" are. For some nonsensical reason, the majority of us have, somehow, mistakenly developed the notion that "Big Brands" offer better value!!! see, this is the mentality that doesn't hear "what is being said", these people see "who is saying it". So long as people are judged on "who and where from" and not on "what he is saying" we will always have to copy paste to be accepted and to belong. Now you cant write a book if you aren't a PhD in something or the other. By which time, you might have actually lost all your marbles, but come on, the degree will validate your idiocy as brilliance so long as you have a PhD. from a reputable university. At the very least, your book will get off the shelf just on the basis of the status of the PhD, irrespective of the university. I can name one person, we both may know, who holds this particular view and has a PhD enabling him to censure this mentality in the right technical terms...
    You have a valid point, everyone has to copy paste, even God does it... But at least in His case, we know who created the original as well.
    Unfortunately, now either originality is shunned and condemned by the masses (who wear the same fashions, the same hairstyles, the same blue/black shirts etc) or have ceased to exist due to lack of originality in the preceding generations.

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  7. A very intresting one.. sure copy paste is the most common way of sharing ideas.. thats another way of showing that " i got your point and i agree and now i am convinced that i should tell that to others too "
    another very common example is lecture's notes which are copied processed and then pasted showing.. " We know what we are being taught"

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  8. Everything aside, i LOVED Umar Sharif's song. Hilarious!

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  9. Good one and completely true!

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  10. If you dont want to copy. get down in your lab and invent your own facts. btw. the mere difference of intention can incredibly variate the meaning of the exact same text by two different authors. When i did my thesis, we were allowed to bring somebody else's book and give that in as thesis if we could properly support the intention.
    copying is the hardest thing. we're all just sharing and saying, "hey, m not the only retard who believes in this shit!"

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  12. TLW:

    i have to say i love these rambling tangential comments you post. very enjoyable. as for the blood on our hands, it was the reason i felt political engagement through politics was just an act you cannot morally sanction. hence the alternative routes.

    Ladeeda:

    it embarasses me to say this, but "war and peace" and all russian novels have failed to make it with me. i think we fall out over their names - i forget the characters. i think i'll find a graphic novel version of it :P

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  13. @ KK: Thank you sir, and brevity it will be from now on.
    Is there an email address I could go off-topic on instead?
    Cheers

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  14. TLW:

    kya ho gaya bhai? don't mind it i meant that as a compliment. please feel free to write as long as you want as much as you want here.

    i sincerely believe that comment boards are the modern day equivalent of cafes and tea houses where great ideas, and a lot of invective are shared. also, the general lack of comments on my blog means that i welcome any thing people write, especially if its the long rambling ones you do. i do the same all over the blogosphere.

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  15. When you live in an environment where the information is so overwhelming and moving at rapid rate, it is hard to keep up with the originality of thoughts, at all times. You subconsciously get influenced by what you read or have seen or heard. To write about something, you need to gather information on it, the different views etc.. but once you do that, the originality is corrupted. HEISENBERG!!!!

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  16. I must say that folk in films is good.Umar sharif or Jatin pandit haven't plagiarised as Launda Badnam Hua, Nasiban Tere Liye is Bihari folk.Folk songs like ghazals are open to covers.

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  17. the dr. qadeer photo at the top is absolutely hilarious. i'm sure it's photoshopped - but i don't care.

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  18. kona:

    promise it isn't p'shopped! i couldn't believe it when i saw it, so i put it in here even though it has no real reason to be around. hahah!

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  19. I wonder what he was demonstrating... (while peeking at professor van dutch's diary); Uranium core; chain reaction; a bunch of physics happens; KABOOM; play ball?

    The details of the mushroom are magnificent.

    I'm proud of dr. Q as the next pakistani. don't noone bite.

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  20. kona:

    "Uranium core; chain reaction; a bunch of physics happens; KABOOM; play ball?"

    hahaha! brilliant

    the mushroom cloud can also be seen as some flesh eating zombie, the way it seems to have teeth opening up through its middle.

    the football really makes this so much more than anyone can do justice to in 1000 words.

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  21. Very good idea for twins

    ......... ha ha ha

    James Speeder - www.speeder-ltd.co.uk

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  22. Great stuff man. I remember a friend whose professor informed his class that they're are no original ideas left, and every paper had better be loaded with references.

    If they did find a cogent, logical, ORIGINAL idea, then they'd get an A.

    We all, borrow/steal. On a planet with over 6 billion people, is that really a surprise?

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  23. There's a little zardari in all of us! Hah! Brilliant!

    http://www.rtipakistan.com

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